The Let's Play Archive

Professor Layton and Pandora's Box

by Dragonatrix

Part 18: Photo Woe

Puzzles Remix





3. Search for a hole that leads to an odd number of separate routes.

If you think about it, we've seen this puzzle already. Remember the bridge puzzle from the DLC a short while back? Yeah, it's the exact same thing in practice.




...Oh, and no, these aren't the wrong images here. Despite the scene making this Luke's thing to do, Layton gets credit. I really do just imagine these things as him being unable to stop himself and just spoiling the answer.





Um, Luke you... never mind.






3. If you're still having trouble, you should know that the single line you need to draw is a circle. The only remaining question is where to place it so that the two pieces of the plaza have the same shape and are directly proportional to one another.

So, my issue with this puzzle is honestly really simple. You don't have to be super-perfect with either how the shape is drawn, but you do have to be bizarrely precise to get credit for it. I feel like about half of it has to cross the exact right spot and the rest needs to be very close too but maybe I'm just bad at eyeballing this kinda thing.






I still got it in one shot anyway, this time, so it's not too big a deal at least.




Take it from someone who's seen it all: stay away from the forest to the north-west of town.





1. Rotate each shape 90 degrees to get a fresh perspective on the puzzle.
2. If you look closely, you might notice that there's a number visible within each of the shapes.
3. Once you rotate the shapes, you'll be able to see a number hidden within them.








I hate to burst your bubble, but if your lead on this Elysian Box led you here, you may be out of luck.



It all started over a strange rumour that spread through the town like wildfire.
Ah, so even if we are in the right place, there may be no one left to ask.
Tell me, what was this rumour?
Some silly thing about a curse... I'm not entirely sure what it was, to be honest.
But I often find myself wondering where all those people who left Folsense ended up.





I don't think anyone noticed the one in the top-right here and it is kind of tricky to see at first. Then it becomes super obvious: the garlic cloves there are mirrored from the source image. Feel free to go back and look at it again if you want.





3. Hint Two had the idea of weighing all the bags at once. There are 10 10-unit coins in each of the five bags, for a total of 500 units. But one bag contains fake coins, so the weight is actually less than that. Perhaps the key to solving this really is to weigh all the bags at once, in a sense?

It's kind of annoying that the "solution" to this puzzle requires you to make a leap and assume you can do things that there are zero hints in the puzzle for.






Y'know, I think there's only like a tiny handful of lines for post-hidden puzzle dialogue. I might be misremembering though.





2. You need to find a place where the tower's top can't be seen. To put it another way, you're looking for a place that doesn't allow you to see the outside of the tower.
3. There's one indoor location from which you definitely won't be able to see the outside of the tower.






Suspense









History



So, Chelmey here IS a puzzle gate but it's for 50 puzzles. We've gotten 75 done at this point so, uh, yeah they're never an issue. Like, ever.



Tell me, has your search yielded any genuinely useful facts yet? Another missing dog, perhaps?
Perhaps. Would you mind showing me the photo you recovered from the doctor's flat?
Oho, am I to understand there's a clue to be found in that photo?
Hrmph, well. I can tell you're serious about the investigation.



What the devil?
Is something the matter, sir?
There's a hole in my blasted pocket!
Oh, no!



...That's a VERY large hole. How did you not notice before now?!

I've been scattering the pieces about without even noticing! This... This is a low point in my career.
It seems that all that remains of the photo is this one scrap.



Hey look, we have yet another thing to run around town collecting!

Only this one is actually plot important so we have yet more padding! What fun...


It doesn't look like we'll ever see that photo again...
Perhaps not... The pieces were all still in my pocket when we entered Folsense. Of that much I am sure.
Inspector, do you recall the path you took around town over the past couple of hours?
Bits of it, yes. Let's see...

Mandatory puzzle, moving on, etc. etc.



That should be enough information to get us started. Thank you.

Come, Luke. Let's see if we can recover the pieces of that photo by retracing the inspector's steps.
What's so important about that photo, Professor?



Say no more, I'm sold! After all, your intuition never fails. Let's hurry to the north-east of town!
I think we can get there through the little path where that bulldog was sitting.
Yes, let's. Here, I'll lead the way.



It sure doesn't feel it, but we're actually a fair bit closer to the end than the chapter's number and title implies. Pacing is yet another thing this game kind of doesn't get.



What it does get, at least, is that Barton is a new addition that is cool. I like Barton. Let's start with him so we can keep the left-to-right pattern consistent.



B-Barton, why did you never say anything before now?!


A dog, Officer? Which dog?
Inspector Chelmer had an, um, altercation with a canine by a path to the north-east corner of town.
Well, dogs can sniff out mean people, you know. That's just more proof that he needs to be nicer!
He may seem a bit prickly at times, but he's actually quite kind.
Having said that, this story I heard about him concern one of his less friendly episodes.

The Inspector did what now? How scandalous!



So, what about Krantz?




Though lovely, our town is quite vast, so take care not to tire yourselves out.
I'm sure your feet must be sore, so why not sit for a moment and enjoy this puzzle I've prepared?

Um, well, that's okay actually. No need to worry.



Y'know, it's a new chapter now and we've got a new goal for the time being. Let's check in Flora and see if she's feeling better.






Where did you get off to, Flora?
Me? I, well, um...
Come now, Luke. A gentleman never forces a lady to say more than she wants to.
Oops, of course. Where are my manners? Sorry, Flora.
Oh, don't give it a second thought.



A bit, but nothing concrete. What we need is more time to comb the area for clues.
We could be quite a while, so if you feel tired, go ahead and turn in, dear.
I will. I sure hope you two find a good, solid lead soon!

Right, so, that photo. We could just beeline for Precious in the north-east of this area but Chelmey could've dropped those photo scraps anyway.

Folsense



We know he's been to this store before, for example, so it's worth asking at least.



I've got a vintage puzzle that I'd love to share with you if you'd like to listen.
We'd be honoured to hear it.
Wonderful. This puzzle involves a certain rare vase in my collection. It's on display just over there.

Well, that's not really what we're here for so let's just... move on from this.



Now, hrm, where else has the Inspector been?



Maybe here? We know Barton got rather presumptuous about it at least, so it's worth a shot.




Um... No, I...
Aw, look at those red cheeks! No need to be shy, poppet!
'Ere, try this puzzle out. It'll relax you.

Once again, not really what we're looking for right now.



Closest place to here where we know Chelmey has been is obvious at least.



We even saw him talking to Felix. He's almost certainly seen something.




With no customers, I don't really have much to do, unfortunately.
Do you have any other duties here besides watcing the door?
Some small tasks. For instance, the boss requested that I make some extra copies of the menu.
To be honest, it's a real bother! Would you mind helping me out?

It sounds to me like you're trying to trick a child into doing your job for you. Unpaid at that.



Okay, so this next idea is a strech but hear me out.



We're trying to find photo scraps, Chelmey was (hopefully) trying to investigate this photo, maybe there's something in the studio to find?




The tales I've heard about what people see out there would make your blood run cold.
I recently went out there myself to take a few pictures with my best camera.
What came out was... Well, here, see for yourself.

Well, sadly, this idea was a bust I guess. 'Twas worth a shot though.



No point in delaying any further; Precious is just above here so we'll head back outside and up those stairs.



Well, we'll never know unless we try.



So, let's see what we can do about this particular dog problem.

...Seriously, what is it with this game and dogs?




Our friend the bulldog seems to have had a change in temperament since we last met.
Groooooowl... Grrr...
He looks really hungry, Professor. I think he'll let us pass if we bring him a snack.



I'm sure we can find a suitable snack for our friend there.

Fortunately, that's very close. We just have to go a little ways past the museum...



Well, she's new so let's at least say hi. We're pretty close to our destination anyway.




Why does everyone make such a kerfuffle about warning people away from that castle?
Even if you wanted to go, it's impossible to get up there! The forest gate is always locked!
I take it that's the sole path to the castle, then?
Kee hee! You actually want to go there, don't you? It's a weird and scary place, but I know the feeling.



If you hide in the bushes and wait for the coach, you might be able to sneak in behind it.
So the gate does open! Do you know anything about this stagecoach?



Maybe it delivers raw steaks and blood for the vampire's dinner! But really, I have no idea.
But, hey, all this tlak of stagecoaches has reminded me of this puzzle about horses.

I think you kind of got the order backwards here. Generally people withhold information until we solve their puzzle. We've gotten some... really very good information here, so we'll ignore this now!



Well, uh, grocer's right over there. Sorry, no time, goodbye!



...She's also new. We're right there already, so sure, we can slow down a bit now.




That really, um, stinks.
It's OK. I brought some snacks with me to nibble on, so at least I'm not bored. Here, let's share them.

Well, I don't have much of a sweet-tooth personally. Thanks though.



So, it's unfortunate she's got to deal with Garland's... everything all the time forever. But we've got to deal with it right now so that's infinitely worse.


History



Let's just get this snack for Precious and move on.



We're in desperate need of food for a hungry dog. Do you have anything that fits the bill?
Well, that's the most interesting request I've heard all day.
I don't have anything in a tin, but this leftover beef shank'll make Rover sit up and beg!
That should do nicely. Would you be willing to part with it?



Nope!



NOPE! That is a big problem! Unless Layton wants to kill the dog, I mean.

Garlic is VERY HIGHLY TOXIC for dogs!! Don't do this at home!!!!


Good, good. Now, I won't charge a penny, but you'll have to solve this puzzle I've got here.
I've been mulling it over for days and I'm starting to lose sleep.

C-can we actually, I don't know, look for a less inherently lethal solution maybe?









Puzzles Remix





1. The inspector says he took one turn on a block with a cafe, but that doesn't mean he had to turn in the the direction of the cafe he saw. Instead, what he's essentially saying here is that he was only able to turn once at any intersection with a cafe.





1. If one of the bobbies had said he turned a total of 1,000 times during the course of his investigation, the inspector would have no reason to doubt the bobby was telling the truth.
2. With U-turns forbidden, there's a certain logic you should be able to find in all this confusion.





1. Gold ore is worth a whopping five tiems as much as copper, so focus on claiming some of that. Wouldn't it be great if you could find a five-square plot of land with two pieces of gold ore on it? Sadly, that doesn't seem likely.
2. Unfortunately, no single five-square plot of land contains two pieces of gold ore. However, you just might be able to find a plot that has two pieces of silver ore, remember, your first priority is choosing the plot with the highest total value.





1. Since the stones are of the same size and feel, there is absolutely no way to tell them apart while removing them.
2. The best chance you'll have at pocketing those coins is just around 50%. There's no way of ensuring you'll win the coins.





1. Start by figuring out how old the girl was back when the boy was as old as the girl is now. What relationship does the girl's past age have with the boy's current age?

I... really dislike this puzzle. It's just so awfully worded that it's kind of terrible nonsense until you parse what the heck is being said.





1. Fold creatively and copy two pages at a time.
2. Just because a crease makes the menu sit one way doesn't mean you can't fold along that line in the other direction.





1. Think you've found the answer? You're sure? Well, just to be safe, compare its outline to the ghosts one more time. Don't forget to look at little details, like the shape of its hands.





1. There's no need to do any complicated calculations. The same horses compete several times, and since a tie means the teams are equal, think about what might happen with different matchups.





1. First count out how many sweets you have. There are five pieces of three types of candy and 10 pieces of a fourth type. You have to put two pieces of this fourth type of candy into each of the five portions.





1. Use the Memo function to trace which openings in the container lead to the garlic bulbs!

Whew, that's a lot of puzzles at once huh? Hopefully it's not too many.